Showing posts with label writing poems. Show all posts
Showing posts with label writing poems. Show all posts

Saturday, 13 July 2013

#wpad July challenge - Editing tips

EDITING TIPS


NB. These tips are for poetry writing, though some may be useful for fiction writing too.

1.  Once your piece is written go through it and take out any words that don't need to be there.  If a piece works without the word then it's likely it doesn't belong.  You can always put it back again!  It should become obvious which are the 'culling words' the better you get at it. Words that repeat a lot like 'and', 'the' come into this category.  I love culling!

2.  Is it concise?  Does it ramble trying to do too much or do you actually need more to express what you want?

3.  What about line structure and pattern.  I find that once I have edited so far by hand I need to type it up. This gives me a feel for the poem on the page - how it looks.  It is often at this stage that I might change the shape by splitting into stanzas, trying different combinations and line breaks.  Again you can change it back if it doesn't work.

4.  How does your poem sound?  Read it aloud see where it flows, where it stutters.  What is it's rhythm? Where are the rhymes?  Are you using end rhymes?  If so, do they feel forced or cliched?  Internal rhymes work well (my favourite).  How about metre?  Is it working or is trying to break out into something else? Sometimes as I write I find that a poem tells me where it wants to go, whether it wants to have end line rhymes or go 'freestyle', or follow a form like a sonnet or villanelle.  I've learnt to go with it.  However, there is no harm in trying several ways (or forms) to write a poem and see which one works best.

5.  Perspectives - whose point of view is your poem putting across?  Try changing third person to first person or even second person.  Does it sound better or worse?

6.  Titles are important but sometimes the most difficult to choose.  Do you give it all away by the title or use some subtle word/s for your masterpiece.  Does it reflect the poem and relate to content?  I remember once in a class everyone loved my poem but some didn't like the title (which I was stuck on).  Someone suggested that I just left it untitled but the best suggestion was using the first few words of the first sentence as the title and that's what I went with.

7.  The most important part of editing is to put your poem away for a few days or a week, maybe longer because when you next look at it all those niggly things stand out and the second edit has begun.  Continue doing this until you are completely satisfied that there is nothing else you can do to improve it.  Sometimes a poem just won't come right.  Put it away and leave it for a long time.  Come back to it now and then and have another go. Maybe it needs a complete re-write.  Maybe the form is wrong.  Whatever you do don't throw it away. Maybe you can use some good lines or phrases somewhere else.

8.  Is editing every over?  Ha!  I think not!  I have seen poems I've had published and thought....'Mmmm, that's not the best word I could have used.'  But writing is a journey and over the years our writing changes with experience.  There is also the tendency to over-edit which is also frustrating because you get to the point where nothing is left of the original.

These are just the editing tips I've learnt, read and tried over the years.  Writing good poetry means reading it too.  Read different poets.  What makes their poetry sing for you?  Take their poems apart and analyse them.  One of the best books I have come across on understanding poetry is 52 Ways of Looking at a Poem by Ruth Padel.  This was a real eye-opener for me in understanding how poetry works.  Greatly recommended.

Tuesday, 2 April 2013

NaPoWriMo - 2nd poem



April 2nd

This is more a bit of fun than a poem.  The prompt from The Poetry School was write about what seeing half price Easter eggs made you feel.  Humm!  Bit stuck with that one and my poem came out of ramblings and nothing to do with eggs!


The Half of It

He is half the man he used to be,
living his life through half measures.
I became half hearted – who wouldn’t?
My other half, the better half…….nah!



Monday, 1 April 2013

NaPoWriMo



Have decided to take part in the National Poetry Writing Month challenge - to write a poem a day throughout April.  I'm doing mine along with The Poetry Society with daily prompts via their Facebook page.  This will at least keep me actively writing.

Will be back later on with a poem.....hopefully!

Tuesday, 26 March 2013

Writing time and the next move

Winter View

Not having been very productive in my writing lately I took myself off to a cafĂ© to write this morning.  I took with me Writing Poetry by W.N. Herbert and my writing pad.  I ordered a hot chocolate and found a table by the window (the comfy sofa was already occupied….drat!).  I began reading the last chapter of the book which is all about theme and looking at the poems we write and see if there is any pattern forming.  This is good way to look at poems when thinking about putting a collection together.  There were some writing exercises which I managed to do too while out.  In all I spent about an hour on this chapter (still more to do).  I was able to switch off from others chat and concentrate on reading and writing.  I felt I had accomplished something as well as it proving useful for further writing.

I have thought about the themes I write which include nature, relationships (which has many sub categories), the dark side of life and religious writing.  I now have a list of ideas for poems on the relationship theme which perhaps I had not considered before.  Getting ideas is always difficult.  Those ‘bolts from the blue’ poems that seem to write themselves come so infrequently and having a list will help.  Anything that makes me put pen to paper has to be good.  We all need a little shove to keep us on track.

Sometimes poetry competitions (or indeed story competitions) have themes.  Sometimes I have a poem that fits the theme but often I am stuck.  As the deadline looms I may have a ‘light bulb moment’ but not always and then when I read what others have written I think, ‘yes, now why didn’t I think of that?’  If I can’t find a way into a theme then that’s it.

Now I need to think about what I am doing next with my writing.  Instead of blogging I should be sending out poems!  And that I guess is my next move.  I need to look at different magazines and see which ones I feel my poetry fits into and send something.  Now I have a little more time I am gradually catching up with a backlog of magazines, including writing magazines and poetry magazines.  I am beginning to re-connect with my writing.  It will be all too easy to just drift now I have time but I know I must make some effort and some decisions as my output this year has been somewhat poor (though I do have a good excuse as I have allowed myself some time to pursue some other interests).  The main aim is to claim back some writing time in my week!

Thursday, 21 March 2013

The long poem and books

It seems a while since I was here but I'm still chugging along.  I have in fact been writing some poetry in the last few days.  You remember that earlier in the year I discussed the possibility of writing a long poem?  Well, today I have managed a poem that goes over the page!  In fact the last few poems I have written have been longer than what I usually write.  So far they exist just on paper, have had some quick edits and will make it onto the computer soon now.

I was feeling really low yesterday for some reason so I took myself out and did the rounds of the charity shops and came home with four books - two by Susan Hill, one by Kate Atkinson and Sadie Jones's The Outcasts.  My stack of fiction has depleted so a good excuse to seek out some new ones.  Last week I also bought two books in a 'buy one get one half price' deal.  Dear oh dear, where will it end?

At present I'm reading Helen Dunmore's Talking to the Dead which has become quite sinister.  I'm nearing the end and it's picking up speed so I'm reading at every opportunity.  I shall take it with me when I go up to London later.  I have my last art history class and I can read the book on the train or when I have dinner. I  have decided to have one last meal at Morley College especially as a few of us are going out for a drink after class. We did this last week after the class met at the National Portrait Gallery and it was nice to get to know people better.  I think we should do it after the first class as it would break the ice and we would all be more relaxed.  Our tutor came with us last week too.

Monday, 31 December 2012

Reviewing the year


It's that time of year when one looks back on what one has achieved over the year.  For me I feel I have had the best year ever for my writing and I finally feel as if something is happening.  I am spending longer writing, I've actually got back into writing stories (which I never thought would happen) maybe because I am writing for myself and not aiming it at a particular market.  I just don't write those stories you see in women's magazines.  I read them occasionally but I don't write them.  I am not sure where my writing would fit in but I am enjoying it, whether it's good or bad!

To assess my achievements this year:


  • I have had seven poems printed in the Open University Poets Workbook, one of which I am hoping will make it to the Anthology (only one poem per member is published and it comes down to members votes).  Those poems left will be freed up to submit elsewhere.
  • Four poems published in Areopagus, one was a competition winner (£10 prize)
  • Runner up in an online poetry competition with Foyles (signed copy of a book)
  • Two poems published with What the Dickens? magazine
  • Runner up with Poetry Forum (online) (£5 Amazon voucher).


Against that I have had eight poems rejected but I still have five 'out there' waiting for a yes or no. I entered my first pamphlet competition which I am still waiting to hear on also and have taken part in several poetry courses/workshops/forums throughout the year.

So what is next?  Well, keep writing for one.  Target some different small press magazines, enter competitions, just keep on doing what I'm doing and network!

My proudest achievement is being published in What the Dickens?  The feeling that gave me was wonderful and I was actually shaking when I heard.

I'm looking forward to the Small Stones writing (begins tomorrow) and reading the contributions of others taking part.

I find New Year exciting ...new starts, new adventures, new skills to learn.  I hope your New Year will also be both exciting and rewarding.  Cheers!

Saturday, 29 December 2012

Just writing....

It's a windy, wet day and I'm happy to be indoors and writing.  I've typed up a new poem I wrote a couple of days ago and have edited it and I've also managed to write the next part of an ongoing story.  It seems ages since I've been back to it.  I need to mull over the next part for a while before I go back to it.  I see that I've written just over 4,000 words now!  I'm already thinking that I should re-write the beginning but again I'll  look at it again later, probably when the rest is written.

I've just signed up for the Mindful Writing Boosters to help me get going on January 1st when I start writing Small Stones.

Just two more days before we begin a new year.  I wonder what that holds.

Thursday, 29 November 2012

Putting things off and reward systems

I'd set aside this morning to clean the lounge because it's the first full day I've had free for some time and there wouldn't be another along until next week. Also the lounge needed a good clean before I send hubby up to the attic for the Christmas tree and other decorations.  But I hate housework!  So while I was contemplating the awful task I was reading my Discovering Art History and about to learn all on Jan Vermeer (I'm in the Baroque period) when I broke off to get an after breakfast coffee and as I sat down again I looked out of the window and thought 'this is the sort of time I'd write a poem.  I want to write one!' So I put my book aside and took up pen and paper.  I stared out of the patio door watching the clouds moving in the sky and there was my first line.  Soon a second line came and a whole stanza.  It wasn't until I got to the last line of the second stanza and I found I was using a line ending rhyme (to that of the second line) that I thought 'no, I don't want to rhyme, I'm writing in free verse.'  But you know how it is, sometimes poems dictate the structure themselves and this was one did because I looked back at the first stanza and realised that line two and four had an 'almost rhyme' to it.  So I gave in and ended up with four stanzas of rhyme or close rhyme.  It needs a little editing but I'm quite pleased with it.

I was then temped to sit down and blog but was very good and got on with the chore of cleaning and then went out shopping for my younger meat-starved son!

The only way I get things done when I really don't want to do them is to promise myself a reward afterwards - in this case, to go on my laptop!  What do you do to get motivated?

Friday, 24 August 2012

Shock-horror...I'm writing!

Some flowers to brighten your day!
I woke up this morning inspired to write........well it does happen sometimes!  I worked for over an hour on the chapter on rhyme in W.N. Herbert's book Writing Poetry and wrote a rather funny poem (well I think it is). 

This afternoon I have been busy submitting poems to two magazines and I had to write a short biography for one (yikes!).  Looking through my notebook of submissions I find that this month has been a hive of activity not seen since........not seen!  I don't know how that happened considering I was glued to the Olympics and had someone to stay.  Altogether I have sent out ten poems this month, three of which are for competitions and more encouraging four poems were written very recently.  How did this happen?  When did I find time to do all this?  I am still recovering from the shock.  Whatever got me going I hope it continues!

Friday, 3 August 2012

Taking a breather from the Olympics

Writing has taken a back seat with Olympics in full flow.  The TV is on non-stop and I am in danger of suffering from Olympic overload! However I am working on a poem for The Poetry School as they have asked students to pen something to encourage people to read poetry.  There is a deadline coming up all too fast so I need to get to grips with it very soon.  Have decided on a Haiku and written out lines and words that I think I want to use and now the poem is beginning to take shape.

Friday, 15 June 2012

My way of working

From my garden
Working on new poems has me going one of two ways really.  Sometimes I am inspired - something has sparked off an idea and I work at it until I get a good first draft.  Other times I struggle to get going, especially when I am using exercises and sticking to the rules!   Take the latest assignment I am doing for Adventures in Form with The Poetry School.  Nearly every time (but some more than others) I read the next assignment I think 'I can't do this'.  I make a few tentative notes but still can't find a way in and feel despondent. Then suddenly something clicks and I am away. Why did I doubt myself?

I am now attempting assignment 8 and as usual I had all the same feelings.  The aim this time is to write an 'erosion' poem.  This technique (as I understand it) is to find a word and then gradually take off a letter each time you use it until you are left with one.  The example used was 'gravel', then you get 'grave' etc.  You can use the letters to make new words and even reserve the spelling of the letters you have left but I've struggled with this because I had to find a word first and then write a poem.  I finally I have come up with a line I like and have stuck with it as my word works with it. So this morning I completed it and will upload it onto the site soon.

Some of the assignments on this course have been quite weird!  As I said before they have been more about games with words to produce a poem using found texts, writing to the beat of a song, random line generators.  It is an interesting way of getting creativity into poetry as you end up with stuff you would never normally write about or using words not normally in your vocabulary.

I do hope my fellow students think my efforts are good - theirs have produced some excellent poems.

Sunday, 13 May 2012

More poetry games..music to my ears


Been having more fun with poetry exercises.  This time by putting together song titles together in the form of  a poem and using one word from the title in the title of the next!  Oh! I have wasted so much time on Spotify putting this together but I ended up with two poems, the second of which I was pretty pleased with.  I did use a few joining words so they made a bit more sense, but I kept them to a minimum.  Have a go yourself. Can you do anything better?  I'm sure you can.  Do comment!  Post yours here too.  Go on, I dare you! (PS there is a small error...can you spot it? Hint: 1st poem!)


The Pain of Love (Poem 1)

Love hurts;                                                         (Jim Capaldi)
When I fall in love,                                           (Nat King Cole)
before I fall to pieces,                                    (Razorlight)
before the lobotomy,                                    (Green Day)
could you be the reason,                              (Akon)
could it be forever?                                        (David Cassidy)

Be my baby,                                                       (Ronettes)
tell me baby -                                                    (Red Hot Chili Peppers)
tell it like it is                                                      (Tracy Chapman)
it’s a sin to tell a lie,                                         (The Ink spots)
even
a beautiful lie.                                                   (30 Seconds to Mars)

Beautiful day,                                                    (U2)
strange and beautiful;                                   (Aqualung)
like
Romeo and Juliet                                             (Dire Straits)
you and I;                                                            Lady GaGa)
call it what you want,                                     (James Morrison)
call it wishful thinking;                                    (Polar Caps)
when I’m thinking about you                      (The Sundays)
your love is my love                                        (Whitney Houston)

What is love?                                                     (Howard Jones)
Love is strange,                                                 (Mickey & Sylvia)
a strange arrangement,                                                (Mayer Hawthorne)
a certain romance                                            (Arctic Monkeys)
but.......
what am I doing here?                                   (Chicane)
It’s doing my head in,                                     (Saravah Soul)
head over my heels                                        (Tears For Fears)
when love takes over.                                   (David Guetta/Kelly Rowland)

And I love you so                                             (Don McLean)
I love you so much it hurts                           (John Prine)



On the Road (Poem 2)

Standing in the road                                                       (Blackfoot Sue)
in a big country                                                                 (Big Country)
the in crowd (are)                                                            (Bryan Ferry)
down on the corner                                                        (Creedence Clearwater Revival)

Up around the bend                                                       (CCR)
the man from Nazareth (went)                                  (John Paul Jones)
from here to eternity.                                                   (Georgio)
Eternity is....                                                                       (De-Phazz)

the way it is;                                                                       (Bruce Hornsby)
the more you live the more you love;                     (Flock of Seagulls)
love the one you’re with                                              (Will Young)
one day at a time.                                                            Akon/Enrique Iglesias)

Time after time,                                                                               (Cyndi Lauper)
block after block,                                                             (Mel & Kim)
new kids on the block,                                                   (New Kids on the Block)
kids in the street (are)                                                   (All-American Rejects)
dancing in the street (and)                                          (Martha Reeves & the Vandella’s)
standing in the road.                                                      (Blackfoot Sue)



Saturday, 21 April 2012

Working with dreams

Dreams are funny things, well some of mine are! I know I've written about using dreams as a way into stories and poems before but lately I've had two good ideas from my dreams. The last one was very audible as I had music ringing in my ears! But it was also quite vivid and as soon as I got up I knew where I wanted to go with this and I scribbled everything down.  It is still in draft form but I will leave it now and come back to is another time and see how it works.

A previous dream was also very vivid, funnily enough also with a link to music, but also art (two of my other passions so is it any wonder I dream about them!), but it was also about a meeting with someone I didn't know but there was a great attraction! Again this provided material for a poem which I am still working on.

Don't dismiss dreams because often they place you in positions you might not find yourself in real life and you can use as much or as little of the original dream in your writing.  All you need is an idea from that dream which will take you to an interesting place or different situation, evoke a whole span of emotions that can be captured. My dreams are often very noisy, I don't know why. Music does seem to feature quite a lot as I have heard the most wonderful music, something I'd not heard in waking life!  I also dream in colour, so it's full on!

A writer needs inspiration and if dreams can be used to flush out ideas then use them.